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P2165 — Throttlepedal Position Sensor C Maximum Stop Performance

Manufacturer-specificPowertrain (engine & transmission)

The P2165 code indicates that the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) has detected an abnormal voltage signal from the Throttle Pedal Position Sensor C when the accelerator pedal is at its maximum stop (idle) position. This suggests the sensor or its circuit is not reading the expected full-range value, possibly due to a faulty sensor, wiring issue, or mechanical problem. The vehicle may enter a fail-safe mode to prevent unsafe operation.

Symptoms

What causes it — most likely first

1. Faulty throttle pedal position sensor C

The sensor inside the pedal assembly may be worn, contaminated, or failed, sending incorrect voltage signals.

2. Wiring or connector issue

Damaged, corroded, or loose wiring/connectors to the sensor can cause open or short circuits.

3. Mechanical binding or wear in the pedal assembly

A sticky, worn, or misaligned pedal mechanism can prevent the sensor from reaching its full range.

4. Software or calibration issue

Outdated or corrupted PCM software may misinterpret sensor data; reprogramming may resolve.

5. PCM hardware failure

Rarely, the PCM itself may be defective; this is a diagnosis of exclusion after all other causes are ruled out.

How it's diagnosed

  1. Connect an OBD-II scanner to confirm the code and note freeze-frame data.
  2. Visually inspect the accelerator pedal assembly, wiring, and connectors for damage or corrosion.
  3. Measure the sensor's reference voltage (typically 5V), ground, and signal voltage at idle and full pedal travel.
  4. Check for continuity, shorts, or high resistance in the wiring harness.
  5. Test the sensor's resistance and voltage behavior; compare to specifications.
  6. If no fault found, verify PCM software version and update if needed; if still unresolved, consider PCM replacement as last resort.

Code facts & related codes

SystemPowertrain (engine & transmission)
StandardizationManufacturer-specific (P1/B1/C1/U1)

Frequently asked

Is it safe to drive with P2165?

The vehicle may run in reduced-power mode; short distances are possible, but have it diagnosed promptly.

Will replacing the PCM fix the code?

Usually not; most issues are with the sensor or wiring; PCM replacement is rarely needed and should be a last resort after confirming other causes.

Can a dirty or worn accelerator pedal cause this code?

Yes, debris or wear in the pedal mechanism can interfere with the sensor's movement and cause incorrect readings.

Why is the code sometimes misdiagnosed with PCM replacement?

Because the symptom is an out-of-range sensor signal, technicians may incorrectly assume the PCM is faulty; however, sensor or wiring problems are far more common.